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06/15/2012 8:24 PM
DollfaceHill wrote:twilightschild wrote:DollfaceHill wrote:While I understand him doing this for the children that didnt have a choice to come here illegally, I dont believe that it is right for illegals from the age of 18-30. By that time they should know better and are of legal age...It's only for children who were brought here illegally and grew up here, not people who came here illegally as adults.True, but even though they were brought here as children they still should know better and should have gone to get the papers they need as adults..My opinion.
twilightschild wrote:DollfaceHill wrote:While I understand him doing this for the children that didnt have a choice to come here illegally, I dont believe that it is right for illegals from the age of 18-30. By that time they should know better and are of legal age...It's only for children who were brought here illegally and grew up here, not people who came here illegally as adults.
DollfaceHill wrote:While I understand him doing this for the children that didnt have a choice to come here illegally, I dont believe that it is right for illegals from the age of 18-30. By that time they should know better and are of legal age...
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06/15/2012 8:31 PM
twilightschild wrote:DollfaceHill wrote:twilightschild wrote:It's only for children who were brought here illegally and grew up here, not people who came here illegally as adults.True, but even though they were brought here as children they still should know better and should have gone to get the papers they need as adults..My opinion. < Just curious, how much do you know about the process to get permanent residency?
DollfaceHill wrote:twilightschild wrote:It's only for children who were brought here illegally and grew up here, not people who came here illegally as adults.True, but even though they were brought here as children they still should know better and should have gone to get the papers they need as adults..My opinion.
twilightschild wrote:It's only for children who were brought here illegally and grew up here, not people who came here illegally as adults.
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06/15/2012 8:37 PM
lilSS wrote:twilightschild wrote:DollfaceHill wrote:True, but even though they were brought here as children they still should know better and should have gone to get the papers they need as adults..My opinion. < Just curious, how much do you know about the process to get permanent residency?I dont know the rules and Im assuming its not easy, but I do agree with the once an illegal is of age in this country that they need to quickly get on the road to citizenship or face the ramification of not doing so. Rules and regulations are in place for a reason and if we cant give passes on those due to circumstance, regardless of how unfair it seems. I would think that logical people could sit down in a room and hammer out some kind of legislation that wouldnt create an unnecessary barrier to gaining citizenship but still require it get done in a timely manner. When I look at how American citizens are treated in other countries for even the smallest infraction, Im up for stating that we are far too lenient with non citizens committing any kind of crime and knowing that you were brought here as a child illegally and never trying to rectify that as an adult is a crime. Im not stating that its not at all unfortunate but laws are laws. And seriously, the immense disrespect that has been shown toward the office of the President since he took office has been unbelievable.
twilightschild wrote:DollfaceHill wrote:True, but even though they were brought here as children they still should know better and should have gone to get the papers they need as adults..My opinion. < Just curious, how much do you know about the process to get permanent residency?
DollfaceHill wrote:True, but even though they were brought here as children they still should know better and should have gone to get the papers they need as adults..My opinion.
06/15/2012 8:45 PM
Moon and Star wrote:DollfaceHill wrote:twilightschild wrote:It's only for children who were brought here illegally and grew up here, not people who came here illegally as adults.True, but even though they were brought here as children they still should know better and should have gone to get the papers they need as adults..My opinion. I've heard a lot of stories where kids don't even know that they are illegal until they try to apply for college/jobs/financial aid. By that point it's pretty much impossible to become legalized without risking deportation to a country where they know next to no one or don't even speak the language.
06/15/2012 8:49 PM
lilSS wrote:twilightschild wrote:DollfaceHill wrote:True, but even though they were brought here as children they still should know better and should have gone to get the papers they need as adults..My opinion. < Just curious, how much do you know about the process to get permanent residency?I dont know the rules and Im assuming its not easy, but I do agree with the once an illegal is of age in this country that they need to quickly get on the road to citizenship or face the ramification of not doing so. Rules and regulations are in place for a reason and if we cant give passes on those due to circumstance, regardless of how unfair it seems. I would think that logical people could sit down in a room and hammer out some kind of legislation that wouldnt create an unnecessary barrier to gaining citizenship but still require it get done in a timely manner.
06/15/2012 8:59 PM
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06/15/2012 9:01 PM
lilSS wrote:I get that its a tedious, confusing and expensive under taking but how many of us arent dealing daily with expensive, time consuming, confusing things that may or may not work out for us? Those things dont prevent most of us from doing thing things the right and legal way.
06/15/2012 9:41 PM
vivalavix wrote:lilSS wrote:I get that its a tedious, confusing and expensive under taking but how many of us arent dealing daily with expensive, time consuming, confusing things that may or may not work out for us? Those things dont prevent most of us from doing thing things the right and legal way.Nothing in my life involves the risk of being tossed out of the country. wtf
06/15/2012 9:45 PM
lilSS wrote:twilightschild wrote:DollfaceHill wrote:True, but even though they were brought here as children they still should know better and should have gone to get the papers they need as adults..My opinion. < Just curious, how much do you know about the process to get permanent residency?When I look at how American citizens are treated in other countries for even the smallest infraction, Im up for stating that we are far too lenient with non citizens committing any kind of crime and knowing that you were brought here as a child illegally and never trying to rectify that as an adult is a crime. Im not stating that its not at all unfortunate but laws are laws.
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06/15/2012 10:01 PM
I forgot to answer this part in those other countries Americans are being encouraged to commit illegal acts with the lure of jobs and a better life for their children? America and it's policies are partly to blame for this problem and now people want to act like they had nothing to do with it. That the illegals came here with no one looking or hiring them?
06/15/2012 10:03 PM
06/15/2012 10:04 PM
adri028456 wrote:I forgot to answer this part in those other countries Americans are being encouraged to commit illegal acts with the lure of jobs and a better life for their children? America and it's policies are partly to blame for this problem and now people want to act like they had nothing to do with it. That the illegals came here with no one looking or hiring them? No one forced them to come here, they made that decision. They were encouraged to come here so what, just because someone encourages you to do something doesn't mean you have to do it. It's called actions, meet consequences. You came here illegally and you get deported? Too bad, so sad. The children are not at fault, so this I agree with except the part where only have to had been here for 5yrs. It should be minimum of 10yrs.
06/15/2012 10:07 PM
vivalavix wrote:adri028456 wrote:I forgot to answer this part in those other countries Americans are being encouraged to commit illegal acts with the lure of jobs and a better life for their children? America and it's policies are partly to blame for this problem and now people want to act like they had nothing to do with it. That the illegals came here with no one looking or hiring them? No one forced them to come here, they made that decision. They were encouraged to come here so what, just because someone encourages you to do something doesn't mean you have to do it. It's called actions, meet consequences. You came here illegally and you get deported? Too bad, so sad. The children are not at fault, so this I agree with except the part where only have to had been here for 5yrs. It should be minimum of 10yrs.You didn't even read the post, did you? No child made the decision to come here.
Americans are being encouraged to commit illegal acts with the lure of jobs and a better life for their children?
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