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Tachiwaka13 wrote:That was...complex? I freaking loved every second of it, and I was on the edge of my seat the entire time. That was such a throwback to classic suspense movies. But...I also don't know what the fuck I just saw My friend and I both came away with different ideas of what was actually happening to her and I haven't found an answer yet!
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cotillardfan wrote:beklah324 wrote:I haven't seen a movie, but I have a question about it/the ending. Spoiler [+]After seeing the trailer and hearing about the plot, without reading any spoilers, I assumed that Natalie's character had a split personality, with Mila being the other half. That it was a push/pull relationship, good vs. evil, black vs. white, that Natalie's character was the prim and proper ballerina who did everything by the book, while Mila's character was rebellious, took risks in dancing, was sexual/sexy. Am I right? Or is that not it at all?Spoiler [+] Your right in a sense about there being a push/pull relationship, Portmans character is the prim and proper one, with Mila being rebellious etc. But your reason why is wrong, but i dont want to give too much away
beklah324 wrote:I haven't seen a movie, but I have a question about it/the ending. Spoiler [+]After seeing the trailer and hearing about the plot, without reading any spoilers, I assumed that Natalie's character had a split personality, with Mila being the other half. That it was a push/pull relationship, good vs. evil, black vs. white, that Natalie's character was the prim and proper ballerina who did everything by the book, while Mila's character was rebellious, took risks in dancing, was sexual/sexy. Am I right? Or is that not it at all?
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12/22/2010 12:29 AM
Rockferry wrote:Spoiler [+] So, what was the deal then? Was she just crazy and all of that was in her head?
12/22/2010 12:31 AM
Iwantnumber18 wrote:Tachiwaka13 wrote:That was...complex? I freaking loved every second of it, and I was on the edge of my seat the entire time. That was such a throwback to classic suspense movies. But...I also don't know what the fuck I just saw My friend and I both came away with different ideas of what was actually happening to her and I haven't found an answer yet!Pretty much how I feel Natalie did an amazing job. Her mom was fucking insane. I feel bad for anyone who has a person like that in their life. About the plot spoiler:Spoiler [+]I thought she said "I was perfect" before she dies. Maybe I didn't hear her right...?
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can you hear the wind blow and did you know? Your stairway lies on the whispering wind
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12/22/2010 7:24 AM
gurlchocolate wrote:Rockferry wrote:Spoiler [+] So, what was the deal then? Was she just crazy and all of that was in her head? Spoiler [+]What I got from it was that yes Mila's character Lily is real and very much the "Black Swan" in real life and in dancing technique and passion. But the "Lily" that inhabits in Nina's head, Natalie Portman's character, to me is the other part of herself that for a long time she has tried to suppress. That in her mind her other side takes on Lily's image but really it is herself breaking free. In Swan Lake Odile takes on the form of Odette so that the prince will be unfaithful to Odette...."Lily" is in Nina's mind Odile and she is Odette and in some ways "Lily" is Odette too (especially in the "death" scene in the dressing room). This play really opened up a lot of crazy she had I am assuming for a long time. She turned in her mind her life into Swan Lake in a way, that push and pull within herself. Her whole issue throughout is her needing to let go, she does but it comes with a lot of crazy, which a part of it is having "Lily" being in her mind. So yes Lily is real...the night out for drinks is real and the two guys Tom and Jerry is real but when ever she let go...even a little... "Lily" is there. She is there after she leaves and go home and locks her mother out, mouthing every word having sex with her (for moments she truly let go she sees that it is really herself...her other part). She is there when she imagines herself in place even for a second having sex with the dance director/Von Rothbart (not sure if that was real or imagined). She is there when she finally let go in the end to be the "Black Swan" when she "kills" her. She is a crutch....not really a push/pull kind of character but an embodiment of what she lacks and won't let out deep inside. The story "Black Swan" in many ways was a reflection of "Swan Lake", just with a twist I think.
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12/24/2010 1:01 AM
hellokittyprincess087 wrote: But the relationship she had with her mom and how fragile she was, you would think she was still a teenager.
12/24/2010 1:27 AM
hellokittyprincess087 wrote:I saw it today and I thought it was great. I thought the film was shot beautifully, especially the final Black Swan scenes. And I loved the score.
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12/24/2010 6:18 AM
gurlchocolate wrote:Rockferry wrote:Spoiler [+] So, what was the deal then? Was she just crazy and all of that was in her head? Spoiler [+]What I got from it was that yes Mila's character Lily is real and very much the "Black Swan" in real life and in dancing technique and passion. But the "Lily" that inhabits in Nina's head, Natalie Portman's character, to me is the other part of herself that for a long time she has tried to suppress. That in her mind her other side takes on Lily's image but really it is herself breaking free. In Swan Lake Odile takes on the form of Odette so that the prince will be unfaithful to Odette...."Lily" is in Nina's mind Odile and she is Odette and in some ways "Lily" is Odette too (especially in the "death" scene in the dressing room). This play really opened up a lot of crazy she had I am assuming for a long time. She turned in her mind her life into Swan Lake in a way, that push and pull within herself. Her whole issue throughout is her needing to let go, she does but it comes with a lot of crazy, which a part of it is having "Lily" being in her mind. So yes Lily is real...the night out for drinks is real and the two guys Tom and Jerry is real but when ever she let go...even a little... "Lily" is there. She is there after she leaves and go home and locks her mother out, mouthing every word having sex with her (for moments she truly let go she sees that it is really herself...her other part). She is there when she imagines herself in place even for a second having sex with the dance director/Von Rothbart (not sure if that was real or imagined). She is there when she finally let go in the end to be the "Black Swan" when she "kills" her. She is a crutch....not really a push/pull kind of character but an embodiment of what she lacks and won't let out deep inside. The story "Black Swan" in many ways was a reflection of "Swan Lake", just with a twist I think. I didn't think I would like it, the commercials look stupid but I loved it.
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