No, and I never did. I always believed that the cases were always about money and nothing will change that for me. I'm also one of the few people that
still believe that people are "Innocent until proven guilty."
Did you ever believe the allegations against MJ?
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Posts: 26215 (06/27/2009 2:50 AM) Biggest Sports Fan '08 |
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dubjj07 |
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Posts: 2285 (06/27/2009 3:15 AM) |
It's funny how people hear the word 'inappropriate' and equate it with something sexual. Maybe it was, but more than likely I don't think it
was. He probably shouldn't have had random kids in his bed, but beyond that, I doubt a thing happened.
And as for him being a textbook case, that's almost ignorant, well actually it is ignorant to say. Textbook would mean that there's a formula all pedophiles follow, and clearly he lived a life much different than anyone else way before any allegations, so he could never have been a textbook case. Outside of his celebrity, Mike wasn't so atypical from many people, because a lot of things that one person considers normal, others consider bizarre. He was a regular flawed human, just not as flawed as to become a molester IMO. Also, if the evidence was ever so completely damning, no hot shot lawyer could get him out of that. And twice, there never was. So what does that say? |
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Posts: 7282 (06/27/2009 3:15 AM) |
yes i did and still do, and the fact he has an alarm to let him know when people came near his bedroom, why did he need that and what did he need to hide
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dubjj07 |
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Posts: 2286 (06/27/2009 3:25 AM) |
Smallville78 wrote: This was a big part of the problem...people tried to use 'general' rationalizations for someone who lived a very different life. Since no one could come up for an explanation that would suit them, it always ended up being something sinister or sketchy. Imagine how it would be, if things that were a part of your daily routine (for whatever reason) an were completely harmless were seen by the world as reasons why you were a freak, do you think that would help or hurt your psyche? I'll say it forever..the public killed Mike more than anything else could've killed him. |
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Posts: 413 (06/27/2009 3:27 AM) |
JellyRoll2 wrote: I completely agree with this statement..I to agree he was robbed of a childhood and friends so this was his way of having a childhood |
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Posts: 434 (06/27/2009 4:11 AM) |
I honestly think he was misunderstood.
He really did seem candid in his way of thinking and honestly unable to see how other people could misconstrue his behavior. I think he never fully grew up, so he related to kids more than adults. |
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Posts: 2966 (06/27/2009 4:24 AM) |
dubjj07 wrote:My dad has been saying this all day today 
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Posts: 4189 (06/27/2009 5:30 AM) |
Yes, still do.
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Posts: 40310 (06/27/2009 5:45 AM) Best Fan Fic Writer '08 |
I've never been sure. The second allegations were so inconsistent I never believed them, but the first...
The problem with Michael is that he got so strange, almost anything you accused him of sounded plausible. Which made him a prime target for false accustaions from money grubbers. I always found the fact that they opted for civil rather than criminal proceedings extremely suspect. And he was so far removed from reality and understanding why people found his behaviour inappropriate - he'd be the only paedophile in the world who advertised the fact that he had sleepovers with boys - that I can as easily believe that he genuinely was innocent as I can that he was guilty. |
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Posts: 4022 (06/27/2009 6:52 AM) |
Lets Hug It Out wrote:I agree. I think the parents of those kids took advantage of him and his relationships with children. I think his messed up childhood led to these in some ways inappropriate relationships but I don't think for a second that he molested any of them. The 2nd case was just bull and the 1st was completely ridiculous to me. The shadiness of the parents involved, the proved plotting, the lack of evidence and the fact they filed in civil and not criminal and that with whatever evidence was presented that the law officials didn't move it to criminal shows how shoddy their case was. If it's true that Jordan actually admits to people now that it never happened and his parents made him say it, regardless of the legal ramifications regarding the money he took, he should just come out with it. That case damn near destroyed Michael and I think led to the others to start trying the same thing. |
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Posts: 33581 (06/27/2009 7:13 AM) |
i think he had an unhealthy realtionship with those boys, but who knows if he actually molested them...
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ashaali |
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Posts: 2992 (06/27/2009 7:14 AM) |
FormerlyknownasDoug wrote:Wow, I did not know all that. I know it is wiki, but no amount of money would ever be enough if a man molested my child. I wonder how he is feeling today. |
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Posts: 15506 (06/27/2009 7:14 AM) |
IdDoJC100Ways wrote:I don't believe it either. I think he was strange BUT he was very kind and people took advantage of that just so they could get money. Also, after the 1st accusation , why would parents still take their kids there to spend time with him, IF he was guilty of molesting them? Just something for those who think he did molest the kids to think about. If I was a parent and thought or knew he was doing that, I would NOT take my kids there but parents still did after the whole thing came out. Anyways, I think people found him guilty right away because he was a little weird but being weird doesn't mean you are a child molestor..and from what all his celeb friends said, Liz, and Lisa Marie have said about Michael, was he had a very big heart and was generous and kind, and I just don't see him being a child molestor, so I chose NO. I just think people were after money and they knew they could possibly get it from Michael jmo though. |
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Posts: 2593 (06/27/2009 7:20 AM) |
Yes. And I still do. I think there's molestations that we don't know about, and that he probably has done it a lot of times.That between him and god
now.
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Posts: 15507 (06/27/2009 7:26 AM) |
^If he did molest that kid, why did Parents continue to let their kids hang out with Michael after the 1st case came out? Just asking.
Also, I just think he wanted to be a child at times and see what it was like, sleepovers were normal for a kid, Michael did NOT have a normal childhood, he wasn't even allowed to play at all when he was a kid, all he had to do was practice practice his music, and I think that has to do with how he became in some ways. |
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Posts: 15508 (06/27/2009 7:39 AM) |
^But what I AM SAYING is AFTER this 1st case came out why did people continue to let their kids stay with Michael IF they thought he was a child molester, why
continue to let their kids hang out with him , after the 1st case? That's all I am saying. Okay I give up I won't say no more on this.
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Posts: 4312 (06/27/2009 7:59 AM) |
As it has been said before it is between him and God right now - no one will ever know now. I don't think he did.
MJ was an extremely troubled, damaged individual. What sealed the deal for me was that Martin Bashir[sp] interview...............between the tree climbing and those giant wax dolls. (I must say though the amazing parts of that interview were when they were in the studio dancing and making beats and singing.) Paul McCartney called him a "boy man" - i think that sums it up perfectly. Not having a childhood seriously messed him up. Not only that the alledged abuse and having that much fame at a young age, having your while family depend on you.......he just wasn't right. Then all the plastic surgery. But i don't think that made him a pedophile - just an easy target. The justice system in our country is flawed. Innocent people get imprisoned and guilty go free everyday. Micheal settled out of court for the first trial because of the advice of his lawyers in that the case could drag on for years. It doesn't admit his guilt. The sum of the settlement was so large because they had to "buy" the child's parents not to continue with the case. Astronomical cost - yes but then again it was Micheal Jackson - King of Pop. There are too many variables in the whole picture - fame, fortune, greed, sadness, bizarre. I feel bad for MJ the most. It was another Great Tradegy being played out before the world. |
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Posts: 2292 (06/27/2009 8:22 AM) |
Valerie Me wrote:Right. I have no problem believing that opportunistic parents would put their children in harms way so they could make some money. But men who admit sharing their bed with young boys are generally pedophiles. If your 40 year old neighbor had regular sleepovers with strange boys , no matter how troubled his childhood, people would not hesitate to think he was guilty.
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Posts: 106 (06/27/2009 8:24 AM) |
adri028456 wrote: it isn't fair to compare r kelly's case with michael jackson. in r kelly's case there was clear evidence that he had relations with someone that was under age. that is not the case with michael jackson. i do not believe he ever had sexual contact with children, or regarded them in a sexualised way. he refused to accept that it is socially unacceptable to share a bed with chidren that are not yours. that was arrogant of him. but a child abuser? no way. further more, the team involved in prosecuting michael jackson during 2003 had been after him since 1994 - nine years. do you really think that if he had been abusing children for nine years, that legal team would not have found incontrovertable evidence to bury him at the trial? they couldn't find a smoking gun, because michael was not guilty. |
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Posts: 15509 (06/27/2009 8:26 AM) |
I really think he was a troubled soul but I don't think he ever molested a boy , but thats just me. I just think he wanted to experience what a real
childhood should be like, yes some of the things he did were wrong but when you name a place from a kids movie, you kinda think there is still a child in that
person, and maybe people didn't see that. I don't think he matured as a man, I think there was still a little boy in him that just wanted to have
friends and do stuff he wasn't allowed to do when he was a child.
But I will say some of the things he did were wrong but if he still felt like a child, maybe in his mind it wasn't wrong?? Don't know , but you'd think all those who were around him for many years, Lisa Marie, Liz Taylor, or whoever , would have seen if anything of that nature was inappropriate and would have said something or whatever, just saying. But like that one person said, its between God and Michael Jackson now, I just feel bad if he was innocent and everyone thought he was guilty because he was a little strange or troubled 
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