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Seriously2 wrote:

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Checking in with each other does not mean you do so directly, you know. One can ask mutual friends how a "friend" is doing can't they? This is still checking in to me. It seems very normal to want to know how a friend, especially one you have been wed to, is doing. I highly doubt that the ex and her publicist would hesitate to make public any direct communication between herself and Brad as they are quick to exploit any and all for publicity.

Deep friendship is just that, friendship, not love, not exlove, nothing but friendship. How can someone have been together with another for years and not have some thoughts as to the nature of that relationship? Brad has never used the term LOVE to describe his ex, just used the term FRIEND. He thinks of the ex as a friend, one he knew for years.

I don't harbor much respect for anyone who trashes an ex for years and years after the end of the relationship. I can understand the anger and unhappiness and need to strike out while the relationship is breaking apart and for a short time after, but for years, no way.

Angie said she still had LOVE for BBT in an interview last year yet you never comment on her use of the term LOVE, it is always Brad you rag on.

You certainly are bothered by the relationship existing between Angelina and Brad. For some reason, only known to you, you resent him being in her life. And is seems the longer they stay together the more you complain and attempt to dictate what Brad, and Brad only, should say.

What good are words, which can be uttered with no sincerity whatsoever, mean without actions? Brad and Angie have cleaved to one another and no one else for now going on 5 calendar years. They have 6 kids together, where one is the other will be found. They appear to have found in one another what each wanted and needed to make their lives whole.

You go out of your way to ignore what Brad has said about his Angie. You ignore his telling an interviewer last year that "he fell in love while making MMS" and that is why it is his favorite film. He has said he is upet with a NYT reporter saying negative things about the woman he loves and respects more than any other, and many other examples. The people you choose to quote have said a few great things but Brad has said many many wonderful words as well and his words you vanquish into outer space.

And you are actually believing that words in an interview about a friendship cause tabs to lie as they do. Get real. Brad could stand on Mt Everest and shout I love my Angie and no one else 100,000000 for 100 years and the tabs would still carry on as they have and will. Tabs are in the business of spinning and lying and that is what they will do regardless of the truth, they sell smut and trash, and a happy couple is not a valuable entity to tabs. Tabs sell misery for the miserable not happiness or love, period.

You have set yourself up as judge and jury of what Brad is to say and even how he is to say whatever your script is for him to follow. This is so very strange to me. The only person Brad has to satify is Angie, not you or me or anyone esle. So far he seems to be doing that just fine, as both he and Angie are purrring like 2 satiated and lovedup Siamese cats.

The ridiculousness of some of you is mind numbing. So because I think that Brad could have handled his divorce better where Angelina does not get thrown under the bus and vilified for the last four years, that makes me resentful of Brad being in Angelina's life? No, what I resent is a good woman being tarred with the home wrecker label and crucified for a divorce that the two people that were actually in it walked away unscathed where as the only one that was not part of it is still being bashed to this day.
No body that cares for Angelina wishes for her to be a single parent to 6 children. Angelina has said that she does not care how a man commits to her but it matters how he commits to her children, so no sane person that has her best interest at heart will wish for them to break up, and I have said that privately he might be the best partner ever, that does not mean that I cannot comment or have an opinion on how the game he played has resulted in part to some of the media bashing Angelina has received over the demise of his marriage. If you refuse to see the correlation between some of his comments and the start of a particular tabloid story, that is your prerogative. All we heard in 2007 after the V interview is how he is taking Shiloh back to reunite with the hag, and in that same article he was able to defend his mother being such a wonderful woman and did not deserve to be dragged into the tabloid mess, he could not use that opportunity also to say the nonsense about his mom hating Angie is bullshit. He saw fit to defend the hag in 2005 GQ and expressed how angry he was at the way she was being treated, but Angelina is the one that deserves all that is meted out to her because she is oh SO STRONG and does not need the same treatment or her man defending her.

Brad is his own man and does not need to answer to anyone, that same logic should apply to the hag, her coat tail riding should not merit any criticism from the fans after all she is a grown woman and does not need to answer to any body.
I do not have any problem with Angelina saying she loved BBT, you could tell that they still care about each other and it is sincere and not just a media spin, Brad and the hag said they still loved each other and share deep friendship, I would not have a problem with that if it was sincere, you could tell it is media baloney and not sincere because if it was, she would not have spent the last four years waging this war against Angelina and BBT as much as I can't stand him has only been complimentary towards Brad. Angelina will not have a problem if they had a relationship after all she was the first to offer to meet with the hag if she ever wanted to. When you share a deep frindship with someone, you don't see them at a function and not say hi, even Courtney Cox had a meet and greet with Brad and Angelina so why not with the hag. It is like being asked if he was happy, instead of a yes, goes into his special speak only to go to tabloids at Cannes to proclaim his happiness or have People magazine proclaim they are happy, ask Angelina the same question, you get a direct question that does not leave any room for a different spin, there is no negative way to spin I am extremely happy, Brad should practice that sometimes.

Like I have said so many times, have your opinion and let me have mine, you will not lord yours over me or act as though yours is superior, agree to disagree that is where I am with other fans that I do not agree with on this particular issue, we move on to other JP stories that we agree on.

I have never said my opinion is superior to yours or anyone else's. That is not how I operate, I do not dictate how other people should behave. I stated my opinion just as you have expressed yours.

What I do believe is that nothing Brad could have or would have said would have served as some kind of block to the tabloid exploitation that both he and Angelina have undergone since 2005. I have been a long time Angelina fan, I weathered watching all the tabloid negativity heaped on her during the BBT era, and it was brutal at times. BBT received little or no tab censure, it was all heaped on Angelina no matter what. She was abandoned by both BBT and her Dad during that time. I ached to see her with little Mad being a single Mom when she had so clearly thought that BBT would step up the plate as a Dad for this little child, that BBT could be trusted. But Angelina emerged from that period of her life a stronger person who was willing to go through life alone with her child if that was to be the way things were for her. I admired her for putting the welfare of her child first while also revealing a vulnerable woman who yearned for a family with a love and with more children. She expressed so eloquently the fact that she wanted a permanent love in her life but that whomever that love was would have to be an exemplary person who would love Mad as well as herself. And she held to that principal belief.

Then Brad entered her life. For whatever shortcomings he has, and we all have those don't we, he proved to love both Angelina and Mad, he proved to be the keeper she was hoping to find but was not searching for, he has proved to be someone she could love and trust and respect, he has proved to be someone who shared her love for children, someone who has not run away and left her alone, and he is someone who supports her interests no matter what they happen to be. Brad has been steadfast in his actions for Angelina and their children, and that seems to be most important to Angelina, not any words that someone else might wish to him him utter.

For the first half of 2005 all were whispers and conjecture as to their relationship. No one quite knew what was going on. Even after they moved in together in Malibu not much fire.

Then a vindictive and spite filled insecure jealous ex decided to vent her anger toward them in VF, the anger toward them began to build and the totally conjured tab war has continued unabated since then. So I lay all the blame at the hideous feet of one Los Cabos too tight bikini wearing 40 year old and her publicist. She knew exactly what she was doing and there is no excuse for her behavior. She admitted years later that she knew the marriage was over in summer of 2004, then why the 2005 VF hit job? She picked the most sympathetic writer for her VF tripe and did her best acting performance ever to ensnare delusional insecure Rachel Green wannabes in her web of self pity.

After the 2005 VF article the Rachel Green/AKA the ex and her like minded pathetic supporters have made it their life's mission to "protect" the whiny one. From what is beyond my understanding as I have NO respect for a professional enternally whiny woman who eagerly and willingly and deceiptfully mounts a campaign of lies primarily against another woman and her ex and now even their kids because a doomed rebound relationship between 2 adults did not succeed.

There is nothing, not one thing, Brad could have said to counteract the "hit job" Rachel and her alter ego put out in VF on primarily Angelina. He has said Angelina is the woman he loves more than anything in this world, that she is his best friend, that he respects her more than anyone, that there was no affair, that she is extraordinary, that she has more integrity than anyone else he knows, that he only wanted children with her, that he fell in love with her during MAMS, and that she is the best mother for their kids. And with all that Brad has said about how much he loves Angelina and is happy with her and their family, RG/AKA the ex and her fanatics keep the lying tabs in business.

Again this is my opinion and just as you express yours I express mine. I do not plan to revisit this particular conversation with you again, we just dwell at opposite ends of the continuum about this subject, and it is what it is.

REtour, bravo. ITAWY. Anything Brad says would be turned against Brad and probably Angelina. she made him do it. etc. you can see the headlines now. By simply keeping it toned down, Brad is protecting Angelina. How does anyone know what Brad would love to say in the privacy of his home with the people he trusts most? But one thing no one can deny is that Brad has been steadfast in his actions. He is there for Angelina. There at the adoptions, fathering the children in every way, from birth to adoption. In another 5 years, only the actions will count.