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MoralDesert		#41	[-]
Posts: 3583 (01/10/2009 6:03 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	MuppetGrrl wrote: I know what you're saying. I absolutely know Ivy League opens a lot of doors. It's just the snobbery that surprises me--the idea that if you don't attend what's known as the best of the best, you're throwing your education away, or you must not be as smart, or from a lower class (and therefore less deserving). But then, I didn't have as many opportunities to attend a name-recognition school, so I'm probably more defensive about it. My parents couldn't afford anything to which I didn't get a full scholarship because they were in the too much money/not enough money bracket. I didn't bother applying to the really expensive schools because I couldn't have afforded to go, anyway. No, that kind of snobbery is really dumb. Obviously it's nice to go to a better school, but you'll get a job if you have a degree. I don't feel guilty for looking down on college dropouts or people who didn't go to college, though -- unless there were dior (dier? dyer? dayer?) circumstances.
Sleepn		#42	[-]
Posts: 15094 (01/10/2009 6:07 PM) Most Mysterious '08 Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	i've heard views of educational snobbery change or evolve upon becoming a parent.
MuppetGrrl		#43	[-]
Posts: 72337 (01/10/2009 6:07 PM) JJB Debater '03 Most Intelligent '04 '06 Grammar Cop '05 Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	Dire.
mshinda		#44	[-]
Posts: 5951 (01/10/2009 6:11 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	MoralDesert wrote: Obviously love and happiness factor into success, but it would be ignorant to say that money doesn't play a part, as well. Absolutely. But the thing to keep in mind is, what money allows you to have are resources and options, which can contribute to your happiness. People without money, have less access to resources or choices, they're boxed in by their lack. And that's why money is necessary. But it's foolish to think "success" itself will bring you happiness. And frankly, the ONLY reason anyone wants success, is because they think it will make them happy. Happiness is the thing everyone's really after. Think about it. I've worked with scores of highly HIGHLY successful people whose names you'd know in a second, millionaires many of them. And many of them are some of the most unhappy muthafuckas you'll ever meet. They missed the happiness train; their wild success didn't bring it. So I'm just sayin, don't forget the point of this whole thing. Go to a top tier or middle tier or whatever tier school and do your best. But remember why you're there. And don't kid yourself into buying into the idea that those with the awesomest institution name on their resumes have the happiness path laid out for them. Ole George Bush was an alcoholic after all. Never met a wildly happy alcoholic in my life. But yeah, he was successful. (Mshinda Button rolls off in her wheelchair )
MoralDesert		#45	[-]
Posts: 3589 (01/10/2009 6:27 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	So then you're admitting that money plays a part.
EyECaNdY862		#46	[-]
Posts: 5257 (01/10/2009 6:52 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	Not personally but it depends on the case. Most ppl at my university do though. It seems like everyone here is going to be a Dr, lawyer, engineer, etc so a masters degree isn't even seen as the greatest achievement . And I've had MANY professors and teachers make negative comments about other state schools and esp. community colleges.
IHeartDrDorian		#47	[-]
Posts: 8373 (01/10/2009 6:57 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	MoralDesert wrote: ClubSoda8 wrote: I look down on people that didn't graduate HS, and/or didn't go to college. It's bad but I do too. I don't care what you college you went to though.
digitaldiva16		#48	[-]
Posts: 9023 (01/10/2009 6:58 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	nah, when I was in HS, I was a little bit. I went to private school and a lot of the kids had a snobby attitude when it came to college... many teachers did also.
mshinda		#49	[-]
Posts: 5955 (01/10/2009 7:00 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	I never said money didn't play a part. The original question was about being an institution snob, and I answered I'm not, because I know in the end, institution association isn't the key that brings what we're all after. Therefore, to over-emphasize institution association, says to me that a person is missing the point and really doesn't get it.
rockcandy2008		#50	[-]
Posts: 1040 (01/10/2009 7:12 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	oneandahalf wrote: Not at all. I find my friends do this, though. One of my friends goes to Pitt (I go to Penn State) and she's always telling me what a crappy school Penn State is. It really pisses me off. But Pitt is not ranked all that high either... WTF Isn't Pit around 60th in rankings? Edited By: rockcandy2008 01/10/2009 7:31 PM. Edited 1 times.
Capricorn1229		#51	[-]
Posts: 10312 (01/10/2009 7:15 PM) Most Likely To Respond with a Gif '09 Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	BlackStilettos wrote: mshinda wrote: MoralDesert wrote: He...became President? This is the very reason why I'm too old for this. At some point, you look around you and really take stock of what it means to have lived a good successful life. Is it defined by your salary? Your job titles? The size of your home? Because I've had really big all of those things. And few of them in retrospect were due to the college I attended, but rather the person I am as contributed to by so MANY things in my life. Or is it other things: How many people's lives have you touched positively (and negatively)? Did you love and and were you loved back deeply and well? Did you raise happy, healthy children who grew up well-adjusted and still want to talk to you and don't destest and blame you for fucking them up? How much time did you spend happy and how much time did you waste on silly shit that in the end really doesn't matter? I can answer some of those questions at this point, and none of them had fuck-all to do with the college I attended. Success at 20, 25 and 40 (er, not that I know) can mean very different things. And when you start talking about how college tiers or however you put it factor in, it can get kind of laughable. But whatever, tawlk amongst yaselves.... (I sound like Benjamin Button or some shit ) Now, you know better than to up the conversation like this. She just ended the whole thread.
Capricorn1229		#52	[-]
Posts: 10313 (01/10/2009 7:16 PM) Most Likely To Respond with a Gif '09 Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	mshinda wrote: MoralDesert wrote: Obviously love and happiness factor into success, but it would be ignorant to say that money doesn't play a part, as well. Absolutely. But the thing to keep in mind is, what money allows you to have are resources and options, which can contribute to your happiness. People without money, have less access to resources or choices, they're boxed in by their lack. And that's why money is necessary. But it's foolish to think "success" itself will bring you happiness. And frankly, the ONLY reason anyone wants success, is because they think it will make them happy. Happiness is the thing everyone's really after. Think about it. I've worked with scores of highly HIGHLY successful people whose names you'd know in a second, millionaires many of them. And many of them are some of the most unhappy muthafuckas you'll ever meet. They missed the happiness train; their wild success didn't bring it. So I'm just sayin, don't forget the point of this whole thing. Go to a top tier or middle tier or whatever tier school and do your best. But remember why you're there. And don't kid yourself into buying into the idea that those with the awesomest institution name on their resumes have the happiness path laid out for them. Ole George Bush was an alcoholic after all. Never met a wildly happy alcoholic in my life. But yeah, he was successful. (Mshinda Button rolls off in her wheelchair ) YES WE CAN!!
MandsLB8		#53	[-]
Posts: 3149 (01/10/2009 7:22 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	My friends are like this. It annoys me only because there's a lot of "good" schools who will accept you as long as you can pay the tuition.
JtzCrunkster81		#54	[-]
Posts: 16003 (01/10/2009 7:27 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	Ugh, whatever. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU DO WITH YOUR LIFE, not the damn school. You can go to Stanford and just go to all your classes and do mediocre & not attempt to look for a job or internship or get involved at all in your school. It just depends on the person.
mshinda		#55	[-]
Posts: 5957 (01/10/2009 7:28 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	Capricorn1229 wrote: YES WE CAN!! Thank you, thank you very much (say it like Elvis).
MandsLB8		#56	[-]
Posts: 3150 (01/10/2009 7:38 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	I look down on people that didn't graduate HS, and/or didn't go to college. I used to be like this until I realized that going to college isn't going to make you any better of a person. Although I went to a good college, I never finished and right now I make probably twice as much as a lot of my friends who did graduate. As a matter of fact, besides for a couple of my friends who got teaching degrees, the only ones who actually GOT jobs in their field were my pharmacy friends. I'm also getting my real estate license on the side so my income will increase. I'm lucky I'm not locked into a system where I have to work 50 hours a week and have no room for advancement. Seems silly. Edited By: MandsLB8 01/10/2009 7:41 PM. Edited 1 times.
MissyJG		#57	[-]
Posts: 1697 (01/10/2009 8:20 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	Hold on people, I'm not sure how the education system works in the U.S. but not everyone who did highschool can go to a university right? I mean you need to have a certain degree/level of highschool. Which one is it in the U.S.? The one that can take you into college/uni? I think you're an idiot if you have the opportunity to go to college but don't. Edited By: MissyJG 01/10/2009 8:24 PM. Edited 3 times.
mshinda		#58	[-]
Posts: 5965 (01/10/2009 8:26 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	As long as you meet entrance requirements and have the ability to pay, any high school graduate in the U.S. may attend college. And this at least didn't begin as a college vs. no college discussion, it was about "tier" or status of the institution.
MuppetGrrl		#59	[-]
Posts: 72369 (01/10/2009 8:30 PM) JJB Debater '03 Most Intelligent '04 '06 Grammar Cop '05 Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	High school graduates also include people who dropped out but got GEDs. (graduate equivalency exam)
MissyJG		#60	[-]
Posts: 1701 (01/10/2009 8:50 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	Edited By: MissyJG 01/10/2009 8:52 PM. Edited 1 times.

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