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LilBabyWithTheSundressOn	Teach me to straighten and curl...	Lead	[-]
Posts: 36516 (08/16/2008 3:15 AM) Friendliest JJBer '07 Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	I have straight, poofy hair that sucks. I bought a cheap ceramic combo flat/curling iron today. I know a lot of you use Chis and stuff but I don't have a ton of money to spend on something that I may give up on. So, I tried to straighten first and it helped some but it didn't make my hair at all shiny and the smoothness that I did achieve didn't last long. Then I tried to curl. I tried different heat settings ending up at the highest and left the iron in my hair for probably too long (couple minutes maybe?) but all that happened was the very bottom curled just slightly...it was kind of like a flip...and the rest was just as straight as pre-iron. Do you use any kind of products when styling? Gels, sprays? I want the curls (or the smooth hair) but I don't want it to be stiff from hairspray either. I am a complete novice when it comes to almost anything beauty-related. I do simple make-up and generally wash and go with my hair. I used to curl my bangs way back in the early 90s so they'd be that big poofy thing on top of your head that looked absolutely ridiculous but was in at the time. But I used a ton of hair spray.
LilBabyWithTheSundressOn		#1	[-]
Posts: 36517 (08/16/2008 10:34 AM) Friendliest JJBer '07 Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	Hmm...I didn't think about the straightening hurting my results with curling. I just wanted to try out both so I straightened to see how it would look then tried curling. But I ended up only curling one section because of the crappy results. And the rest of my hair poofed back up considerably within a short amount of time. Can you be a little more specific about the spray and spray/gel stuff? Like I said, the extent of my hair product knowledge is pretty much Aqua Net.
IrshDncr0325		#2	[-]
Posts: 4473 (08/16/2008 1:03 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	I'm addicted to velcro rollers. They make me look like an idiot when I'm getting ready, but I obviously don't care. I blow dry my hair a little bit and then use Sunsilk Daring Volume Spray-on Mousse. I've tried a LOT of volumizing/root-lift products and this is my favorite. Then I finish blow drying and regardless of whether or not I'm curling or straightening, I use the rollers. I will tease the roots a little after straightening/curling and before putting the roller in. I use 4 large ones right down the middle of my head. Then I use 2 large ones on each side of my head. Then I use smaller ones for the rest of my hair. It keeps my hair shiny/smooth as well as gives it volume.
LilBabyWithTheSundressOn		#3	[-]
Posts: 36525 (08/16/2008 1:20 PM) Friendliest JJBer '07 Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	See...I don't know if I'd need a volumizer or root-lifter. This was my hair on a really good day for me. I usually only wash every two or three days because it's always so poofy. Any longer though and the roots start to get greasy even though the ends are still fairly poofy.
whitneybabyx3		#4	[-]
Posts: 1492 (08/16/2008 8:57 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	Have you ever thought about layers? I really don't know anything about hair cuts but I would think it'd take some bulk off your ends, thus having less poofy hair. I don't really know though. You'd have to ask your hairdresser. Like FutureSexLoveSounds, I don't get results if I curl my hair after I flat ironed. I thought it would look bad if I curled my natural hair, but it looks pretty good actually! You can't even tell that my hair was an ugly wavy mess 10 minutes before. If you need help learning how to curl it, videos on youtube are pretty helpful!
whitneybabyx3		#5	[-]
Posts: 1493 (08/16/2008 9:00 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	As far as products go... yeah, use a heat protecting spray/serum. V05 makes one and it's in a red bottle. (The name escapes me, sorry!) I've been using Tresseme's Heat Tamer Spray and I think it's pretty good. For smoothness, I love Bed Head's After Party! Just make sure you buy it at a salon. I didn't, and I can't tell if it's been tampered with. It doesn't seem different compared to the last bottle I had, but who knows. Bed Head is more expensive, so if you want something cheaper, Tresemme's Smoothing Creme works pretty well. I like it better than the Secret Weapon one by John Frieda. That's about all the recommendations I have. Sorry it wasn't much! If you go to Walmart/Target/wherever you shop, you'll see lots of different things you can try. There's all kinds of shine sprays, smoothing cremes, products for curls, etc. A lot of them aren't more than 6 bucks (that I've seen anyway), so find one that appeals to you and give it a shot. Hopefully other members will be of more help to you! Edited By: whitneybabyx3 08/16/2008 9:02 PM. Edited 1 times.
LilBabyWithTheSundressOn		#6	[-]
Posts: 36544 (08/16/2008 9:04 PM) Friendliest JJBer '07 Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	I had layers once in high school and I didn't like them. But then it was more the "frame your face" kind of layers in the front. I definitely need to get a hair cut. I tried straightening again today and it worked a bit better than last night but then my hair just looked way too long. Maybe when I get it cut I'll talk to them about layers.
whitneybabyx3		#7	[-]
Posts: 1495 (08/16/2008 9:09 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	Yeah. My hair was a bit bulky and long layers made quite the difference.
ItsGonnaBeMe4JLB		#8	[-]
Posts: 1089 (08/16/2008 11:38 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	I have super frizzy hair and I use sunsilk de-frizz serum before drying it. It's fantastic! On really frizzy days, I follow with silk therapy once it's dry. I don't have much luck curling my hair though. I wish it would hold better but my hair is long and heavy and it always falls.
BballinQT24		#9	[-]
Posts: 1631 (08/17/2008 1:39 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	I also use the Treseme Heat Tamer spray and I like it a lot. Plus, it's not expensive. One tip I have for when you straighten it is to make sure you do it in small sections. Like I'll put part of my hair up and just leave a layer down, and straighten it that way in small sections. Then when I am doing the section, I'll straighten the bottom and then go over it again from the top to bottom. (Not sure if that stuff makes sense:lol) It seems like splitting it into a lot of different sections would take longer, but it really doesn't because the hair straightens so much quicker than it would otherwise and you don't have to go over it so many times.
cryinblue		#10	[-]
Posts: 11702 (08/17/2008 3:09 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	Hair will curl better if it is unwashed for a day.
CAMiiLLE		#11	[-]
Posts: 5739 (08/17/2008 3:58 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	I don't use a Chi, I just use a $30 one from Ulta... At first I thought I couldn't straighten either but I find that using smaller sections definitely works better. I use clips, like the ones they use at the salon to hold them up and I flip in. As far as product goes, I use Biosilk when I blow dry it, then I use Tresseme Straightening Gel for when I straighten and after I'm done I add a little bit more Biosilk for shine. Biosilk can get pricey but it lasts a loong time since I only use about a dime/nickel sized drop and just rub it all throughout my hair. I haven't tried the Tresseme heat tamer but I think I'm going to buy it.
Holly McCee		#12	[-]
Posts: 94 (08/18/2008 2:37 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	Take it from the girl that hated layers for years and has very similar poofy hair to yours, that you really should get some layers!! I will include some examples of my hair over the years for you, and then include my newest hair cut and what I do for styling. Me in 2006. Yes, that's how long my hair was. I haven't looked at these photos for awhile but I think I was officially crazy to lug that much hair around (I'm only 5' tall). Notice the poofy volume towards the bottom. The rest is pulled straight from the weight. New Year's Eve Dec 2007: Hair is definitely shorter, but here it's triple barrel ironed for the waves. Still all one length. February 2008: Post hair-cut at the salon, complete with new layers and a lot shorter than the previous 5-6 years of my life. The stylist flat ironed my hair and used the Paul Mitchelle Skinny serum for blow drying. This serum is pretty awesome as it cuts blow drying time down and takes out some of the frizz. I use it now every time I blow dry. March 2008: Same hair cut a month later. This time I put in some curling/de-frizzing mousse, scrunched, and let air dry. If you cut some of the weight off your hair (shorter/layers) you might also be able to pull off something like this. It's especially easy if you need a quick get up and go hairstyle. August 2008: Had another haircut in June. This is an example of curling with a flat iron that I did a few days ago. I used the Paul Mitchell skinny serum and blow dried straight. Then I straightened the bottom layers by clipping most of my hair to the top of my head. It's a lot easier to straighten in sections than to just grab chunks of hair. When I got to the top layers, I straightened to the bottom of the layer, and then wrapped that section of hair around the flat iron and pulled it through which created the volume and curls around my face. After I was mostly satisfied with it, I sprayed with Paul Mitchell sculpting spray and voila. If you're air drying your hair before using your flat iron, you might want to consider blow drying it first with a brush as it will do most of the straightening for you. Then you can just use the flat iron for smoothing and finishing up the job. You might end up more satisfied with the results. Anyway, I just wanted to include some photos to show you what a difference a change in length and layers can make. I've had so many comments in the months following the cut that it's not even funny and I really don't miss the one length long look anymore!!
BOMBSHELL XXX		#13	[-]
Posts: 829 (08/23/2008 11:53 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	Holly.... what an improvement! You look amazing.
Irulanrocks1		#14	[-]
Posts: 2556 (08/27/2008 12:50 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	Yeah you do, your hair looks great! LBWTSDO - I use as a smoothing conditioner, this will help remove the frizzy at the bottom. Then for straightening I use Meet Mark smoothing serum (it's like $3 and a little goes a long way) and I let my flat iron heat up for at least 30 minutes. Spray on a heat protectant (VO5 is good for saving money) and then flat iron in pieces. Pull the finished pieces up in a scrunchy to get out of your way but the scrunchy material will keep it from denting. THEN once you have done all your hair, apply one more layer of the smoothing serum and redo. This will give it the smooth / silky look. Your hair is thick like mine so I think the straightening twice will work wonders.

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