If she gets to have the final say on whether or not she has the baby, the man should be able to have a say on whether or not he wants to be involved, no questions asked. However, I think a man should have to sign over his parental rights before birth. That way the woman can decide if she wants to abort, give away the child, or raise it with her own money. If she wants a child, fine, but if he doesn't, it's solely HER responsibility. It would be unfair for a couple to begin raising a child together, then allow the man to walk away without making payments though, so in those cases, he should have to pay child support. So many women are crazy bitches that lie about birth control and have kids to trap men, which is totally unfair. And the argument that they shouldn't have sex if they don't want a child is the most retarded shit I've ever heard. Humans have sex recreationally and there's nothing wrong with that.