I never said you said anything of the sort, so I am not sure what point you were making with that. I said I wouldn't try to determine, meaning I have no clue, not that I have any sort of say so or that you have any sort of say so.

And please, I wasn't trying to pin you down at all. It's not that pleasurable. I was disagreeing with a statement I've seen you make more than once that I still disagree with. The whole premise of pushing bad karma on someone who has done something you don't like is stupid to me because in doing so, you'd be pushing it on yourself.