Blazermaniac wrote:
MissDivaDoll wrote:

No, it doesn't matter who initiated it because Zimmerman followed the kid after being told not to by the cops, and then confronted him about what he was doing there, thereby creating a situation of confrontation. If you follow someone that you deem suspicious and a threat AFTER you've been told not to, and then you confront them, YOU have created the hostile situation that did not have to happen. Doesn't matter if the person you're following hit you first, YOU created the situation by not staying away and by confronting someone whom you don't know and that you claimed as suspicious.

IF Trayvon attacked first, (and I doubt that) it was because he felt threatened at this strange man following him first, which sounds completely reasonable and could still be deemed self defense.

Sorry, I very much disagree - the possibility of Trayvon attacking first if nothing else would seem to hurt the argument that this was somehow premeditated or intentional.  Which is why the DA seeking a conviction for second degree murder has taken a gamble.

Well then we disagree because if Trayvon attacked first, someone who was following him whom he didn't know and whom he previously tried to run from, but was chased down anyway and then cornered, then to me, that is still self defense on Trayvons part. Zimmerman cannot claim self defense against someone whom he willingly pursued, chased down and confronted after being told not to by police.

That's like saying if I'm walking down the street at night alone and a man is following me, then I run to get away and he catches up to me, corners me and I feel threatened, that I cannot attack first to get away from said person. Fuck that. When someone willfully pursues you whom you don't know and you fear for your safety, you are within your rights to defend yourself.

Plus, none of us knows exactly what George Zimmerman said or did to him once he had him cornered, and of course getting the truth out of that lying bastard is like getting blood from a turnip.