Making Neverland into a tourist destination would certainly help repay his debts, but I can guarantee the people in that town (Santa Ynez?) are going to have the world's biggest hissy fit if his family tries to do it. They don't want unwashed Eastern Europeans with fanny packs coming by the bus load, spoiling their bucolic countryside.
Remembering the King of Pop, Michael Jackson.
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Posts: 536 (06/26/2009 5:06 PM) |
No, I read some story earlier on the NY Times' site saying Michael and a private invester have control of Neverland via a joint venture.
Making Neverland into a tourist destination would certainly help repay his debts, but I can guarantee the people in that town (Santa Ynez?) are going to have the world's biggest hissy fit if his family tries to do it. They don't want unwashed Eastern Europeans with fanny packs coming by the bus load, spoiling their bucolic countryside. |
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Posts: 487 (06/26/2009 5:08 PM) |
jrngirl wrote:Until someone tells them that Graceland is the 2nd most visited house behind only the White House and makes anything within a 20 mile radius millions of dollars a year because of the unwashed fanny pack wearing Europeans. |
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Posts: 5497 (06/26/2009 5:16 PM) |
Was this posted? Sorry if posted!
A Tribute to My Friend, Michael Jackson
Michael Jackson will be remembered, most likely, as a shattered icon, a pop genius who wound up a mutant of fame. That's not who I will remember,
however. His mixture of mystery, isolation, indulgence, overwhelming global fame, and personal loneliness was intimately known to me. For twenty
years I observed every aspect, and as easy as it was to love Michael -- and to want to protect him -- his sudden death yesterday seemed almost fated.
Two days previously he had called me in an upbeat, excited mood. The voice message said, "I've got some really good news to share with you." He was writing a song about the environment, and he wanted me to help informally with the lyrics, as we had done several times before. When I tried to return his call, however, the number was disconnected. (Terminally spooked by his treatment in the press, he changed his phone number often.) So I never got to talk to him, and the music demo he sent me lies on my bedside table as a poignant symbol of an unfinished life. When we first met, around 1988, I was struck by the combination of charisma and woundedness that surrounded Michael. He would be swarmed by crowds at an airport, perform an exhausting show for three hours, and then sit backstage afterward, as we did one night in Bucharest, drinking bottled water, glancing over some Sufi poetry as I walked into the room, and wanting to meditate. That person, whom I considered (at the risk of ridicule) very pure, still survived -- he was reading the poems of Rabindranath Tagore when we talked the last time, two weeks ago. Michael exemplified the paradox of many famous performers, being essentially shy, an introvert who would come to my house and spend most of the evening sitting by himself in a corner with his small children. I never saw less than a loving father when they were together (and wonder now, as anyone close to him would, what will happen to them in the aftermath). Michael's reluctance to grow up was another part of the paradox. My children adored him, and in return he responded in a childlike way. He declared often, as former child stars do, that he was robbed of his childhood. Considering the monstrously exaggerated value our society places on celebrity, which was showered on Michael without stint, the public was callous to his very real personal pain. It became another tawdry piece of the tabloid Jacko, pictured as a weird changeling and as something far more sinister. It's not my place to comment on the troubles Michael fell heir to from the past and then amplified by his misguided choices in life. He was surrounded by enablers, including a shameful plethora of M.D.s in Los Angeles and elsewhere who supplied him with prescription drugs. As many times as he would candidly confess that he had a problem, the conversation always ended with a deflection and denial. As I write this paragraph, the reports of drug abuse are spreading across the cable news channels. The instant I heard of his death this afternoon, I had a sinking feeling that prescription drugs would play a key part. The closest we ever became, perhaps, was when Michael needed a book to sell primarily as a concert souvenir. It would contain pictures for his fans but there would also be a text consisting of short fables. I sat with him for hours while he dreamily wove Aesop-like tales about animals, mixed with words about music and his love of all things musical. This project became Dancing the Dream after I pulled the text together for him, acting strictly as a friend. It was this time together that convinced me of the modus vivendi Michael had devised for himself: to counter the tidal wave of stress that accompanies mega-stardom, he built a private retreat in a fantasy world where pink clouds veiled inner anguish and Peter Pan was a hero, not a pathology. This compromise with reality gradually became unsustainable. He went to strange lengths to preserve it. Unbounded privilege became another toxic force in his undoing. What began as idiosyncrasy, shyness, and vulnerability was ravaged by obsessions over health, paranoia over security, and an isolation that grew more and more unhealthy. When Michael passed me the music for that last song, the one sitting by my bedside waiting for the right words, the procedure for getting the CD to me rivaled a CIA covert operation in its secrecy. My memory of Michael Jackson will be as complex and confused as anyone's. His closest friends will close ranks and try to do everything in their power to insure that the good lives after him. Will we be successful in rescuing him after so many years of media distortion? No one can say. I only wanted to put some details on the record in his behalf. My son Gotham traveled with Michael as a roadie on his "Dangerous" tour when he was seventeen. Will it matter that Michael behaved with discipline and impeccable manners around my son? (It sends a shiver to recall something he told Gotham: "I don't want to go out like Marlon Brando. I want to go out like Elvis." Both icons were obsessions of this icon.) His children's nanny and surrogate mother, Grace Rwaramba , is like another daughter to me. I introduced her to Michael when she was eighteen, a beautiful, heartwarming girl from Rwanda who is now grown up. She kept an eye on him for me and would call me whenever he was down or running too close to the edge. How heartbreaking for Grace that no one's protective instincts and genuine love could avert this tragic day. An hour ago she was sobbing on the telephone from London. As a result, I couldn't help but write this brief remembrance in sadness. But when the shock subsides and a thousand public voices recount Michael's brilliant, joyous, embattled, enigmatic, bizarre trajectory, I hope the word "joyous" is the one that will rise from the ashes and shine as he once did. Twitter: http://twitter.com/Deepak_Chopra |
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Posts: 39167 (06/26/2009 5:17 PM) |
jrngirl wrote: Santa Ynez. yes. I know the area well. I have family there and it is very country. To have Neverland turn into a tourist spot would turn the town upside down. I think it would be a good idea to open it up like Graceland because it would prevent a ton of randoms hanging out in the front gates 24-7:lol |
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Posts: 7268 (06/26/2009 5:17 PM) |
I loved this performance!!!!
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Posts: 18071 (06/26/2009 5:30 PM) |
http://www.accesshollywood.com/michael-jacksons-manager-i-had-to-tell-the-children_article_19755
One of those people who got to know the King of Pop over the years was Frank Dileo, Michael's longtime manager and a member of Jackson's inner circle, who was at the hospital when the singer died on Thursday, along with family, friends and Jackson's children. "His three children were there. They were in a separate room while the doctors worked on Michael," Dileo told the "Today" show's Meredith Vieira on Friday. "I'm very sad for his children, his mother, his father, his brothers and sisters. It was a very rough day yesterday for everybody." In fact, it was Dileo who had to tell Jackson's three children - Prince Michael Jackson, 12; Paris Michael Katherine Jackson, 11; and Prince Michael Jackson II, 7 - that their father had died after doctors worked for over an hour to resuscitate the star. "We had to tell the children. I didn't go in alone. I went in with a doctor and a social worker. The nanny was in there and Dr. Murray - Michael's personal physician. It was, as you would think," a visibly emotional Dileo continued. "I can't even begin to tell you the emotion that flowed out of those children." As someone very close to Jackson over the years, Dileo got to see a side of the pop star that few others did - as a father. "Michael was a very dedicated parent, a single parent, who took that responsibility very seriously. His whole life surrounded around those children and they around him," Dileo added. So where are the children now following their father's death? "They are with their grandmother. They are with Mrs. Jackson," Dileo said, referring to Michael's mother, Katherine. "Right now, I would think that's where they would stay." And while custody of the children has yet to be determined, Dileo said he also must focus on Jackson's financial matters, which was something that the pop star worried about for his kids. "There's so much speculation as to a will - there is a will. A team of lawyers are gathering today and we'll sort through all the stuff for the children," Dileo explained. "[Michael] talked about making sure that his finances were taken care of - to clean up this mess so his children would be protected, so that's what I'm going to do… That's what was important to Michael." And while Jackson's death at the age of 50 on Thursday came as a shock to fans worldwide, it was equally surprising to those who were closest to the King of Pop. In fact, Dileo said Jackson had been in good spirits in the days leading up to his death. "I was with Michael everyday going to rehearsals - Wednesday and Thursday he was the happiest," the manager recalled. "On Wednesday, he put his arm around me at the end [of the day] and he said, 'Frank, I've never been happier. We're going to make this work… It's our time again Frank. We're going to do this!'" Besides being happy, Dileo also said Jackson seemed to be in top physical shape. "He seemed in great health. He was working out everyday," he added. |
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Posts: 3620 (06/26/2009 5:31 PM) |
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Posts: 3621 (06/26/2009 5:35 PM) |
i get the feeling the media is really trying to turn this more into how weird he was and not the music. its like they are all waiting for the tide to turn so
they can start the bashing. (my opinion, dont bite me)
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Posts: 7270 (06/26/2009 5:35 PM) |
I love that pic!
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Posts: 11300 (06/26/2009 5:35 PM) |
I went to the Apollo today. The singing and dancing was still going strong with some Jackson 5 as I was passing through.
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Posts: 30791 (06/26/2009 5:44 PM) |
i guess it has finally sunken in for me today b/c i feel a lot sadder. he was such a huge part of my childhood. i was in danceteam in middle and highschool,
and i originally got into it b/c i loved the performances in his videos so much.
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Posts: 14811 (06/26/2009 5:49 PM) |
tiawani wrote: I'm sure it will eventually, especially when issues of his estate are addressed. The beat his name while he was alive and they'll try to do it even more now. |
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Posts: 102 (06/26/2009 5:50 PM) |
I think what troubles me about Deepak Chopra's tribute, is that he is also using it to aggrandise himself. He virutally stated that he co-wrote many of
Michael's songs, for nothing and out of the goodness of his heart. Right....
I tell you, my sense is that Michael was surrounded by people who always had an agenda and were out to promote themselves. Probably the only people he could trust were his Mum and his children. |
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Posts: 29883 (06/26/2009 5:55 PM) Chris Fanatic '03 |
Leave it to TMZ to bring this back into play...
Jackson Allegedly Racked Up Huge Rx Bills |
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Posts: 4015 (06/26/2009 6:12 PM) |
moussemaker wrote:That is so sad. |
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Posts: 13415 (06/26/2009 6:12 PM) |
I just watched some YouTube videos. I don't recommend it for those of you that haven't done it yet. Definitely brings the raw sadness to light. I just
watched and watched and the entire time I kept thinking, he died not knowing how much he was really truely still loved and admired.
I'm sad!! |
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Posts: 6653 (06/26/2009 6:14 PM) |
chocolate covered raisins wrote: yes that pissed me off too
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Posts: 7277 (06/26/2009 6:16 PM) |
^^^ I know...
I was watching some videos, and I was saddened that he didn't realize that even though it wasn't vocalized, it was always felt by so many. I can only hope as a believer of God and heaven that he can see all the love from above.
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Posts: 40304 (06/26/2009 6:17 PM) Best Fan Fic Writer '08 |
chocolate covered raisins wrote:We actually used to sing that song as a hymn at school. |
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