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McKennaWasBanned wrote:

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Most people are pressured to pay. Especially at southern baptist churches, in my experience. A lot of people just sign over their christmas bonuses under pressure from both the church ministry and the congregation. It's pretty sick.

Sure you are at certain churches, but you're not required to and you don't have to pay such-and-such amount to find out information. I could get a Bible or Koran or whatever for free, easily. Even better, I could find out all I wanted to on the internet. But leaders of Scientology fight tooth-and-nail to keep information off the internet and practice scare tactics against those who speak out. They even blatantly lie that Xenu has anything to do with Scientology. Why? What's the big deal?

DoesThatSparkle wrote:

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oneandahalf wrote:

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DoesThatSparkle wrote:

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oneandahalf wrote:

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McKennaWasBanned wrote:

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Most people are pressured to pay. Especially at southern baptist churches, in my experience. A lot of people just sign over their christmas bonuses under pressure from both the church ministry and the congregation. It's pretty sick.

Sure you are at certain churches, but you're not required to and you don't have to pay such-and-such amount to find out information. I could get a Bible or Koran or whatever for free, easily. Even better, I could find out all I wanted to on the internet. But leaders of Scientology fight tooth-and-nail to keep information off the internet and practice scare tactics against those who speak out. They even blatantly lie that Xenu has anything to do with Scientology. Why? What's the big deal?

So? What's the big deal with having to pay money? If that's what they believe, then that's what they believe is required. How is it any different than the catholics believing you MUST confess your sins in order to get into heaven? Since when did money become such an evil thing? It's just another part of their belief system and to me is no different than other crazy practices, ideas, and beliefs that other religions have.

It's not necessarily the idea of money, it's the lies and manipulation and lack of access to information.

You mean the way the bible was edited by the council of trent?

You could say that, but I can still do a Google search for uncanonized books of the Bible, can't I? And the Bible was canonized way before the Counsil of Trent.

the lakes slave wrote:

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All religions are equally nutty. The problem with Scientology (and Mormonism) is that they're "new" religions, and haven't gone through thousands of years of being watered down like Judaism and Christianity and Islam and Hinduism.

Yeah, but it's not the policy (for lack of a better word) or tradition of entire other religions. The creator himself said the best way to make money would be to create a religion.

All religions basically started as cults that were used to get their "creators," or the men who carried out "the word," more power.

I'm not disagreeing with that at all. Christianity, Judaism, Islam are all absolutely cults. But Jesus and Muhammad weren't walking around saying "I'll solve all your problems and give you the secret to eternal happiness...but first you have to pay me $10,000." You could definitely say it's about power with all religions...it is. But other major religions are accessible to anyone. I wouldn't be so anti-Scientology if it weren't for that.

DoesThatSparkle wrote:

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oneandahalf wrote:

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DoesThatSparkle wrote:

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oneandahalf wrote:

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It's not necessarily the idea of money, it's the lies and manipulation and lack of access to information.

You mean the way the bible was edited by the council of trent?

You could say that, but I can still do a Google search for uncanonized books of the Bible, can't I? And the Bible was canonized way before the Counsil of Trent.

You can also do a google search for the "books" on scientology

And what do you think an auditor at a Scientology center would say if you went in and told them that?