MN woman ordered to pay RIAA $1.92 million for dling music

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MeParley		#41	[-]
Posts: 14865 (06/19/2009 11:06 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	I raised an eyebrow when I read that among the music she was nailed for was Green Day. Green Day themselves have no problem with people downloading their music for free online. They've said in the past that the reason record companies are making less money is because artists are making crappy music that the public doesn't want to buy--not because people are downloading. Of course, Warners, their company, is as mercenary and cutthroat as any of them and couldn't care less about their opinion.
Feenix26		#42	[-]
Posts: 16 (06/19/2009 11:08 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	That's crazy.
Justins Mistress		#43	[-]
Posts: 9188 (06/19/2009 11:41 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	This reminds me of JC's crazy ass hot dog metaphor.
xxGirlxxFixerxx		#44	[-]
Posts: 2271 (06/19/2009 12:12 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	doylefan2002 wrote: kimjoy85 wrote: Aaand thats why I dont respect the music industry and prefer to pirate. That's stupid as hell. You're hurting everyone in the industry when you do that. If everyone shared the same view as you, no one would make music anymore because no one would be buying it legally. Why bother pouring millions into making an album that won't make any profit? Sometimes I'll download stuff, but I also spend a lot of money on CDs. I think I've already bought at least a dozen albums this year. Well first of all you just admitted to doing the same thing so you can't judge her. Also I don't agree that downloading hurts everyone. It only hurts the suits. Artists who are in it for the music don't care if their records sold for $30+ in a store or for $5. Furthermore CD sales profits pale in comparison to what artists make off of tours, merch, and being a spokesperson for whatever and all the other shit that artists now do on the side to up their income. Also IMO a good band, with good material won't need millions to make an album.
chocolate covered raisins		#45	[-]
Posts: 29773 (06/19/2009 12:20 PM) Chris Fanatic '03 Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	This is why I don't have any file sharing programs on my computer. And why I delete files after I burn them. I now only d/l music from here, and beemp3.com. But mainly just here.
Tommy		#46	[-]
Posts: 3960 (06/19/2009 12:57 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	Fucking. Ridiculous. That judge needs to be fired.
Alex the Goob		#47	[-]
Posts: 50372 (06/19/2009 12:58 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	Helloooo Im a caaaar wrote: Fuck the RIAA. Amen. That's fucking BULLSHIT. What the hell is wrong with those people?? Fucking assholes.
Alex the Goob		#48	[-]
Posts: 50373 (06/19/2009 12:59 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	chocolate covered raisins wrote: This is why I don't have any file sharing programs on my computer. And why I delete files after I burn them. I now only d/l music from here, and beemp3.com. But mainly just here. I heard that what MC does is more dangerous than Limewire or Kazaa or whatever.
bonjoviroxmysox		#49	[-]
Posts: 12371 (06/19/2009 1:32 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	This just reminded me, I haven't popped into the Request a Song thread in forever.
kimjoy85		#50	[-]
Posts: 6205 (06/19/2009 1:57 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	doylefan2002 wrote: kimjoy85 wrote: Aaand thats why I dont respect the music industry and prefer to pirate. That's stupid as hell. You're hurting everyone in the industry when you do that. If everyone shared the same view as you, no one would make music anymore because no one would be buying it legally. Why bother pouring millions into making an album that won't make any profit? Sometimes I'll download stuff, but I also spend a lot of money on CDs. I think I've already bought at least a dozen albums this year. LMAO shut up. If you knew anything about the music industry as it is now you'd already know that artists dont make ANYTHING from actual albums. It all comes from touring and endorsements. And considering the fact that you pirate, this statement is really hypocritical. But the fact that you spend money on something you can get for free just makes you stupid.
PuraVidaPanama		#51	[-]
Posts: 15500 (06/19/2009 3:31 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	Yeah fuck that. make better music that people are willing to pay for. Some stores still sell cds for $17. who the hell is gonna pay that to get ,maybe, three good songs?
PuraVidaPanama		#52	[-]
Posts: 15501 (06/19/2009 3:32 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	dp Edited By: PuraVidaPanama 06/19/2009 10:55 PM. Edited 1 times.
dear lady		#53	[-]
Posts: 39622 (06/19/2009 3:35 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	That's absolutely absurd.
twilightschild		#54	[-]
Posts: 19444 (06/19/2009 3:37 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	I wish they'd delete the posts in MC every now and then. Most of the links are expired anyway.
mybutterflydreams		#55	[-]
Posts: 3899 (06/19/2009 3:42 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	Fantasmic303 wrote: doylefan2002 wrote: kimjoy85 wrote: Aaand thats why I dont respect the music industry and prefer to pirate. That's stupid as hell. You're hurting everyone in the industry when you do that. If everyone shared the same view as you, no one would make music anymore because no one would be buying it legally. Why bother pouring millions into making an album that won't make any profit? Sometimes I'll download stuff, but I also spend a lot of money on CDs. I think I've already bought at least a dozen albums this year. I understand what you mean, but the bolded statement is funny to me. I know there are celebrities who get into music for the money they can make once they're successful, but I think more of them get into it because they have a passion for the artistry - writing, singing, performing, whatever. The $$$ makes it a dream, but I don't think real musicians would ever be like, "ok, no one is gonna pay for my music? screw it, I'm not writing any more songs." It would just be that much harder for them to get their music out to us if they had to work regular jobs. And just for the record, I do still buy cds of artists I like - my rule is that if I like three songs off an album, it's worth the investment, but I can't discover three songs I like without previewing it first. As an aspiring author, I find this interesting. I know it's somewhat different, but libraries have been letting people share books for free for a loooooong time, yet people still manage to make money writing. Not every author is JK Rowling or Stephen King and many (if not most) still work day jobs to support themselves, but they don't stop writing because they can't make millions, nor do publishers stop printing books because people are sharing them. I write because I have to - it's my passion, and if someday I can make money off of it, great, but that's not WHY do it. If, in the bigger picture, musicians aren't creating music for the same reason, then yes...they'll stop making albums. But the number of independant artists makes me think that it's about more than money for most of them. That being said, I'm staying out of MC for a while. You bring up an interesting point about the literature media sharing due to libraries.
PoetryNjcEyes		#56	[-]
Posts: 9426 (06/19/2009 6:33 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	MeParley wrote: I raised an eyebrow when I read that among the music she was nailed for was Green Day. Green Day themselves have no problem with people downloading their music for free online. They've said in the past that the reason record companies are making less money is because artists are making crappy music that the public doesn't want to buy--not because people are downloading. Of course, Warners, their company, is as mercenary and cutthroat as any of them and couldn't care less about their opinion. I totally agree with that. I have no problem buying albums, as long as they're good. The ridiculous part is stores like FYE still sell CD's for $20. I think the RIAA needs to look at the crap music they put out as the reason for poor record sales. And lets not forget how they price-gouged us throughout the 90's. I must of spent thousands of dollars on CD's that decade.
RandomA1		#57	[-]
Posts: 2691 (06/19/2009 6:43 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	mybutterflydreams wrote: Fantasmic303 wrote: doylefan2002 wrote: kimjoy85 wrote: Aaand thats why I dont respect the music industry and prefer to pirate. That's stupid as hell. You're hurting everyone in the industry when you do that. If everyone shared the same view as you, no one would make music anymore because no one would be buying it legally. Why bother pouring millions into making an album that won't make any profit? Sometimes I'll download stuff, but I also spend a lot of money on CDs. I think I've already bought at least a dozen albums this year. I understand what you mean, but the bolded statement is funny to me. I know there are celebrities who get into music for the money they can make once they're successful, but I think more of them get into it because they have a passion for the artistry - writing, singing, performing, whatever. The $$$ makes it a dream, but I don't think real musicians would ever be like, "ok, no one is gonna pay for my music? screw it, I'm not writing any more songs." It would just be that much harder for them to get their music out to us if they had to work regular jobs. And just for the record, I do still buy cds of artists I like - my rule is that if I like three songs off an album, it's worth the investment, but I can't discover three songs I like without previewing it first. As an aspiring author, I find this interesting. I know it's somewhat different, but libraries have been letting people share books for free for a loooooong time, yet people still manage to make money writing. Not every author is JK Rowling or Stephen King and many (if not most) still work day jobs to support themselves, but they don't stop writing because they can't make millions, nor do publishers stop printing books because people are sharing them. I write because I have to - it's my passion, and if someday I can make money off of it, great, but that's not WHY do it. If, in the bigger picture, musicians aren't creating music for the same reason, then yes...they'll stop making albums. But the number of independant artists makes me think that it's about more than money for most of them. That being said, I'm staying out of MC for a while. You bring up an interesting point about the literature media sharing due to libraries. I agree. I've heard arguments from both sides of this issue a million times but never really heard anyone mention the library aspect.
fluffyjenn		#58	[-]
Posts: 7019 (06/19/2009 6:51 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	RandomA1 wrote: mybutterflydreams wrote: You bring up an interesting point about the literature media sharing due to libraries. I agree. I've heard arguments from both sides of this issue a million times but never really heard anyone mention the library aspect. Read some Lawrence Lessig, especially Free Culture. You can find the entire book on his website. http://free-culture.cc/ He mentions the library analogy several times. Libraries and archives are often in the middle of copyright struggles. With new technologies such as e-books, Kindles, mp3s, streaming video, etc, libraries pay careful attention to copyright law. Librarians are huge believers in allowing access to media for everyone... even though the publishing industry used to try to stop their books ending up in libraries when they first became prolific. We didn't always have a culture that believed in sharing books for free. And thanks to libraries now, companies like Google are under a lot of pressure to not make money off of items in the free domain. (Copyright and fair use was a major issues in almost all of my classes in library school.)
kastang		#59	[-]
Posts: 50 (06/19/2009 11:26 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	So basically, the $1.92 mil is just a scare tactic and they are just "making an example" out of her. But they have (or ever had) any expectations that she was able to pay that amount. I think someone said, $2000? RIAA is trying to seem like they are so great by "settling" for a smaller fine, and at the same time, they are trying to "Hey! DON'T MESS WITH US! or you'll be sorry!"
MissB123		#60	[-]
Posts: 1229 (06/19/2009 11:30 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore	What's MC?

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