Greenli wrote:She mentioned that her kids called her by the nannies name one time and that was during the season premiere on May 25. The paparazzi never used to go to Pennsylvania and take pictures of this family. That whole shebang started after Jon and Deanna were plastered all over tabloid magazines leaving a bar. So anyway, how are you able to gauge when and where she was with them before May when there were never photos of them?
After that episode where she admits the kids call her by the nannies name, she has been seen all around with them.
franknbeans82 wrote:I get the same vibe from him. He has always seemed content with being a part time father, I'm not sure what makes people think otherwise. He seems to enjoy being able to hop into his little sports car (that cannot fit any of his 8 children) and go drinking with college women at the local club. That said, Kate isn't up for any Mother of the Year awards herself. They both had a hand in getting in the mess they are in today.
jon never seemed all that nurturing to me. he seemed bored w/ fatherhood. anyhow, kate can only do pr to make herself look good, but jon is responsible for his own actions. no one made him go out drinking and carousing, and if he doesn't want to be seen that way, he should stop doing it. no one is at fault for jon looking bad but jon. imo, both parents need a good smack.

