standards are set by the state.
Teachers: What's your opinion on Obama's merit pay?
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 Sleepn |
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Posts: 16487 (03/10/2009 7:43 PM) Most Mysterious '08 |
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 the lakes slave |
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Posts: 60724 (03/10/2009 7:49 PM) |
and did he mention any of this during his campaign? Yep, he did. |
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Sleepn |
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Posts: 16490 (03/10/2009 7:49 PM) Most Mysterious '08 |
then there we go.
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xBecky |
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Posts: 12285 (03/10/2009 8:02 PM) |
I realized that standards are set by the state, what I'm asking is, people are suggesting basing pay on student gain throughout the year, and I was curious
what standards they thought the gain should be based off of.
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The Very Bad Seed |
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Posts: 140 (03/10/2009 8:07 PM) |
Out of curiousity, how many people in this post are actually teachers?
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Mistress Darcy |
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Posts: 8145 (03/10/2009 8:13 PM) |
I hate merit pay systems in general. They tried to do one with some other public vocation and IT DOES NOT WORK.
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Sleepn |
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Posts: 16496 (03/10/2009 8:14 PM) Most Mysterious '08 |
you mean at what rate students learn/satisfy the state mandated standards?
right now it's called AYP. |
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Posts: 145 (03/10/2009 8:15 PM) |
I believe that the national gov. has their own education standards too.
I agree that it is BS. I work with kids like herecomestrouble, who don't give a crap and are below grade level. I don't really see any other to base the bonus money but by standardized tests. |
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MuppetGrrl |
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Posts: 73814 (03/10/2009 8:26 PM) JJB Debater '03 |
How many teachers have worked in private businesses over a long term? I'm always interested to know what their opinions are the way a business is run vs.
the way a school is run.
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Sleepn |
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Posts: 16501 (03/10/2009 8:26 PM) Most Mysterious '08 |
the same data can be broken down by classroom/teacher...?
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Sleepn |
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Posts: 16503 (03/10/2009 8:32 PM) Most Mysterious '08 |
our diocese uses the MAP tests for reading, language, and math K-12 in conjunction with state assessments (measured @ grades 3,5,7,9,11) in reading, writing,
math & science.
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MercuryAdore |
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Posts: 9281 (03/10/2009 8:37 PM) Current Events Scoop '07 |
I've disagreed with him on this from the get-go. It was one of the several reasons I didn't support him in the primaries. However, I'm not too
concerned about it right now as I don't think it will ever pass (there's just too many against him on this), or if it does pass, it'll be a small
test project in a certain school district or something.
And in case this hasn't been mentioned, for whatever it's worth, the National Education Association is against merit pay. |
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Sleepn |
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Posts: 16505 (03/10/2009 8:39 PM) Most Mysterious '08 |
i guess it's just *impossible* to apply an accountability, right?
we're at the 2012 level expected for AYP. there's time to work out the kinks while our Commander in Chief pioneers for more thorough academic measurement. |
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xBecky |
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Posts: 12286 (03/10/2009 8:41 PM) |
I'm nearly a teacher. I have the knowledge, now I'm getting the practice.
If it's based on the same standards as AYP, then I will never make great money because special education students, by definition, will not be meeting grade-level standards. That's what pisses me off about NCLB, and what would piss me off about this. |
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Sleepn |
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Posts: 16506 (03/10/2009 8:42 PM) Most Mysterious '08 |
we do it. fall and spring.
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adreayoung |
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Posts: 13132 (03/10/2009 8:48 PM) |
"He also suggested longer school days - and years - to help America's children compete in the world"
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iT--F725ypsNTaNrulnuCGd8vt0QD96RERO80 I wonder how that's going to work as almost every single district in the area I live in is CUTTING school days from the year - one district is having a 2 week spring break and another one is cutting 6 days from the school year JUST this year and most are thinking of going to 4 day school weeks next year.
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ru4serious |
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Posts: 443 (03/10/2009 8:49 PM) |
adreayoung wrote:Don't know why the OP changed the title of the post but there is a long one about the longer school days/year http://thejjb.com/topic/485107 |
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Sleepn |
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Posts: 16507 (03/10/2009 8:55 PM) Most Mysterious '08 |
what is the argument here? it's not impossible to measure every subject. is it desirable or necessary to measure every subject? if the President puts a
schedule for merit pay into practice, every subject will have to be measured, measuring every teacher. *Yes We Can*
we both know, though, that reading, writing, and math are core subjects and are valid measurements for AYP. |
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Sleepn |
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Posts: 16508 (03/10/2009 9:00 PM) Most Mysterious '08 |
i'm not suggesting it. your President is.
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Sleepn |
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Posts: 16510 (03/10/2009 9:05 PM) Most Mysterious '08 |
you mean at what rate students learn/satisfy the state mandated standards?what's confusing about that? the data can be broken down, by student, with the student being attributed to a teacher. it's not comprehensive and i didn't suggest it is. AYP is the rate at which students satisfy state standards -in reading, writing, math & science. |
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