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03/03/2012 9:10 PM
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YesItsTrue07 wrote:insomniachollie wrote:He's just issued an apology and claimed he didn't mean it as a personal attack.Riiight, because making assumptions about someone's sex life and then calling them a "slut" and "prostitute" is not a personal attack. He's such a POS.
insomniachollie wrote:He's just issued an apology and claimed he didn't mean it as a personal attack.
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03/03/2012 11:53 PM
dolce55 wrote:He issued an apology because he's losing sponsors. That's the only reason.
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03/04/2012 2:25 AM
the lakes slave wrote:rokhas1yummybumbum wrote:You don't have health insurance for when you go to a routine doctors office visit. You have health insurance so if you get into a car accident and need thousands of dollars of procedure done, you won't go bankrupt. False. You're wrong. Stop typing. You're stupid. You can not in any way compare car insurance to health insurance. Health insurance is NOT in ANY WAY just for emergencies. That's why there are separate "emergency only" plans. Your ignorance and arrogance continues to show.
rokhas1yummybumbum wrote:You don't have health insurance for when you go to a routine doctors office visit. You have health insurance so if you get into a car accident and need thousands of dollars of procedure done, you won't go bankrupt.
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03/04/2012 2:28 AM
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03/04/2012 2:29 AM
sasp11 wrote:rokhas1yummybumbum wrote:You don't have health insurance for when you go to a routine doctors office visit. You have health insurance so if you get into a car accident and need thousands of dollars of procedure done, you won't go bankrupt. Just like I said, you don't have car insurance for getting an oil change. You have car insurance for if you get into an accident, and your rates also go up depending on fault of accident and all of that. I guess catastrophic was a bad word to use this time, even though I've used it previously and there was no misunderstanding. Insurance is for EMERGENCIES.Are you really this stupid or are you just trolling here?
rokhas1yummybumbum wrote:You don't have health insurance for when you go to a routine doctors office visit. You have health insurance so if you get into a car accident and need thousands of dollars of procedure done, you won't go bankrupt. Just like I said, you don't have car insurance for getting an oil change. You have car insurance for if you get into an accident, and your rates also go up depending on fault of accident and all of that. I guess catastrophic was a bad word to use this time, even though I've used it previously and there was no misunderstanding. Insurance is for EMERGENCIES.
03/04/2012 2:30 AM
blairboy wrote:Considering how much a typical doctors visit costs these days (including blood work, xrays, whatever), I doubt the common person would be able to just pay it out of their pocket without some type of coverage/help.
03/04/2012 2:34 AM
03/04/2012 2:35 AM
rokhas1yummybumbum wrote:the lakes slave wrote:rokhas1yummybumbum wrote:You don't have health insurance for when you go to a routine doctors office visit. You have health insurance so if you get into a car accident and need thousands of dollars of procedure done, you won't go bankrupt. False. You're wrong. Stop typing. You're stupid. You can not in any way compare car insurance to health insurance. Health insurance is NOT in ANY WAY just for emergencies. That's why there are separate "emergency only" plans. Your ignorance and arrogance continues to show. Oh, I'm not the one who doesn't know how to have safe sex. Perhaps I have to spell it out for everyone. Now currently, health insurance will pay for most any and everything.
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03/04/2012 2:38 AM
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03/04/2012 2:42 AM
blairboy wrote:I honestly don't your gripe with Health Insurance either paying for stuff, or helping to pay for things. Oy. I don't care how it was in the past, we don't live in the past, so what it was then, isn't how it is now. It changed for a reason. Plain and simple, just like in the future it'll change again, it happens. No matter what it is, you can't expect stuff to stay the same. If you're annoyed with insurances paying for stuff, then I hope you don't let them pay for you.
03/04/2012 2:51 AM
rokhas1yummybumbum wrote:blairboy wrote:I honestly don't your gripe with Health Insurance either paying for stuff, or helping to pay for things. Oy. I don't care how it was in the past, we don't live in the past, so what it was then, isn't how it is now. It changed for a reason. Plain and simple, just like in the future it'll change again, it happens. No matter what it is, you can't expect stuff to stay the same. If you're annoyed with insurances paying for stuff, then I hope you don't let them pay for you. I have health insurance, because I need it. I don't have a problem paying for myself. It just sucks when my premiums are so high because insurance pays for too much, people who are unhealthy have health insurance thus driving everyone's premiums up with their health issues, etc. It just keeps going up and up and up in cost and the service doesn't improve. I would just rather things get cheaper, not more expensive.
03/04/2012 2:56 AM
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rokhas1yummybumbum wrote:blairboy wrote:Considering how much a typical doctors visit costs these days (including blood work, xrays, whatever), I doubt the common person would be able to just pay it out of their pocket without some type of coverage/help.That's because it's covered by insurance so there's no point in controlling costs. It has to be covered by insurance. And if you have insurance, you will probably get more expensive tests done then if you had been going out of pocket. So these days are much different from the olden days before health insurance paid for everything.
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franknbeans82 wrote:LisaChasez wrote:And we also need to stop with the viagra argument. Viagra is used for a known medical issue. If you use that argument, you're also saying that BC should only be for a medical reason, not a preventive reason.if viagra is free b/c it treats a medical issue, then why not birth control, too? like i said, i think the medical reasons for birth control are a wee bit more serious than some man's inability to get hard. i don't think that argument means that birth control should only be for a medical reason, though. it's just addressing one of the many reasons for birth control. ultimately, i just find it ridiculous that something that treats a less serious condition is free b/c it's for men. as other people have said, if men could get pregnant or had the responsibility of parenthood forced upon them, birth control would become free and easily accessible so fast it's not even funny.
LisaChasez wrote:And we also need to stop with the viagra argument. Viagra is used for a known medical issue. If you use that argument, you're also saying that BC should only be for a medical reason, not a preventive reason.
03/04/2012 11:21 AM
LisaChasez wrote:And I'm saying if you use the "for medical reasons" argument, it could be used to limit BC to those who need it only for medical reasons, which is a very small percentage of women who use it. And regardless of what you think of Viagra, ED is an actual medical condition. Wanting to get not pregnant isn't. Don't use the Viagra argument because it's apples and oranges, two different things.
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03/04/2012 2:49 PM
LisaChasez wrote:franknbeans82 wrote:LisaChasez wrote:And we also need to stop with the viagra argument. Viagra is used for a known medical issue. If you use that argument, you're also saying that BC should only be for a medical reason, not a preventive reason.if viagra is free b/c it treats a medical issue, then why not birth control, too? like i said, i think the medical reasons for birth control are a wee bit more serious than some man's inability to get hard. i don't think that argument means that birth control should only be for a medical reason, though. it's just addressing one of the many reasons for birth control. ultimately, i just find it ridiculous that something that treats a less serious condition is free b/c it's for men. as other people have said, if men could get pregnant or had the responsibility of parenthood forced upon them, birth control would become free and easily accessible so fast it's not even funny.And I'm saying if you use the "for medical reasons" argument, it could be used to limit BC to those who need it only for medical reasons, which is a very small percentage of women who use it. And regardless of what you think of Viagra, ED is an actual medical condition. Wanting to get not pregnant isn't. Don't use the Viagra argument because it's apples and oranges, two different things.
03/04/2012 2:50 PM
YesItsTrue07 wrote:LisaChasez wrote:And I'm saying if you use the "for medical reasons" argument, it could be used to limit BC to those who need it only for medical reasons, which is a very small percentage of women who use it. And regardless of what you think of Viagra, ED is an actual medical condition. Wanting to get not pregnant isn't. Don't use the Viagra argument because it's apples and oranges, two different things. Professional medical associations have stated that pregnancy is a medical condition and that contraception is medically necessary. The ACOG has stated "contraception is basic, preventive health care and should be readily available and treated the same as prophylactic therapies for other medical conditions" and that "Pregnancy is a medical condition, just like impotence. And the cost benefit of preventing pregnancy is much greater than treating impotence." The American Medical Association supports policies that provide employees with reasonable periods of paid or unpaid leave due to documented medial conditions including pregnancy. The fact is birth control is used to help prevent a medical condition.
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